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	<title>Comments on: Ring Light Love &#8211; Ray Ring Flash Review</title>
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		<title>By: George Christopher</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2009/02/ring-light-love-ray-ring-flash-review/comment-page-1/#comment-40330</link>
		<dc:creator>George Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 06:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nick,

Have you seen or used the &quot;Coco Ring Flash&quot;? I saw it on amazon, and it looks interesting at $50. 

Check out this link, I would love your opinion. I think I am buying one just to test it out. Can&#039;t really lose.

Thanks for all the awesome videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nick,</p>
<p>Have you seen or used the &#8220;Coco Ring Flash&#8221;? I saw it on amazon, and it looks interesting at $50. </p>
<p>Check out this link, I would love your opinion. I think I am buying one just to test it out. Can&#8217;t really lose.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the awesome videos.</p>
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		<title>By: Radin</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2009/02/ring-light-love-ray-ring-flash-review/comment-page-1/#comment-33322</link>
		<dc:creator>Radin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why does it not work well with long lenses ? any sample pictures ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why does it not work well with long lenses ? any sample pictures ?</p>
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		<title>By: HDR-Fotografen &#8211; Ny leksak</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2009/02/ring-light-love-ray-ring-flash-review/comment-page-1/#comment-25890</link>
		<dc:creator>HDR-Fotografen &#8211; Ny leksak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ringblixtar är inga billiga leksaker, men nu fann jag något billigt i Kaffebrus.com:s hörna. Eller billigt och billigt, det förutsätter att man har en 580 ex från början. Hur som helst, den verkar fylla sitt syfte. Nu ska jag bara ha en modell framför den, men det verkar jag snart ha 0rdnat. För den som är intresserad av ringblixtens egenskaper finns den här sidan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ringblixtar är inga billiga leksaker, men nu fann jag något billigt i Kaffebrus.com:s hörna. Eller billigt och billigt, det förutsätter att man har en 580 ex från början. Hur som helst, den verkar fylla sitt syfte. Nu ska jag bara ha en modell framför den, men det verkar jag snart ha 0rdnat. För den som är intresserad av ringblixtens egenskaper finns den här sidan. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ctpicman</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2009/02/ring-light-love-ray-ring-flash-review/comment-page-1/#comment-14131</link>
		<dc:creator>ctpicman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 03:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can pick up a Chinese knock-off on e-bay for $36, shipping included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can pick up a Chinese knock-off on e-bay for $36, shipping included.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gorilla</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2009/02/ring-light-love-ray-ring-flash-review/comment-page-1/#comment-10271</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that great review, HoaiPhai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that great review, HoaiPhai.</p>
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		<title>By: HoaiPhai</title>
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		<dc:creator>HoaiPhai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The review was well done and interesting, but about the product itself...I don&#039;t know. 

First of all, because it&#039;s anchored to the flash itself you are married to the idea of using a physically short lens, say a 50-100mm prime or possibly a very limited zoom.

It doesn&#039;t seem practical for macro because of the large-diameter &quot;hole&quot; for the lens to poke through and the light-emitting surface areas are absolutely huge, and your subject is small at a very close range. Most of the light would never make it anywhere near your subject. Plus just about any macro lens or lens/extension tube combo would sick out pretty far, causing shadow vignetting of the flash&#039;s light.

As for event shooting, it seems kind of bulky and seems to hang down only two inches or so in front of the camera body. Doesn&#039;t it get in the way of using the lens&#039; focusing, aperture, or zoom rings? Any events I&#039;ve covered required that I focus fast, and the Ray Ring Flash looks like it would get in the way. Maybe my hands have claustrophobia or something. 

What is the Ray Ring Flash&#039;s effect on the flash&#039;s guide number? Another site says one stop. If someone has a compatible flash that they are happy with when taking event photos, i.e. its output is sufficient for the distance range within which they are comfortable working, but they are looking for a softer look, adding the Ray Ring Flash would reduce the distance within which their subjects will be properly illuminated. This one stop means that the circle around the photographer that will be properly illuminated is now half the area compared to not using the Ray Ring Flash...a consideration for those used to their flash&#039;s capabilities.

Let&#039;s talk about cost...$200 and you still have to dish out for the actual flash unit. I looked at a US on-line camera store that sells it at $200 and they sell the Sigma EM-140 for $380. For that you get an actual flash unit that is made for macro, with a Guide Number of 46 @ ISO 100/feet so any of the event photos above used to demonstrate the Ray Ring Flash are do-able...they look like they were done with a 50mm lens at less than seven feet. The light-emitting ring is attached to the filter threads of the lens allowing you to use whatever lens you want and your hands have all kinds of room. OK, the EM-140 is not a &quot;true&quot; ring light because it has two small Xenon tubes...but you can use this for creating modelling. The catch-lights in your subjects&#039; eye wouldn&#039;t be the same either (a ring with two bright spots at each side). I don&#039;t work for or sell Sigma equipment, but the EM-140 is on my wish list. Plus the EM-140, or similar unit, is much more compact than lugging around a flash unit and an attachment that is about the same size as a small vegetable strainer with a long handle. I&#039;ve have to invest in a new kit bag to accomodate it.

I would only consider buying one if the price was below $100, could be mounted onto the lens&#039; filter threads, and was teathered to the flash unit (including the built-in pop-up flash) via some kind of adjustable universal adapter.

As for attracting attention and illiciting a respose, I&#039;ve used Billy Bob teeth for shooting uncooperative children, and they cost me only a couple of bucks. Try Spock ears, a Nixon mask, a funny hat, or something wacky but appropriate for the event if you want a reaction. Really!

The Ray Ring Flash seems kind of expensive for a flash accessory that is not very flexible to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The review was well done and interesting, but about the product itself&#8230;I don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>First of all, because it&#8217;s anchored to the flash itself you are married to the idea of using a physically short lens, say a 50-100mm prime or possibly a very limited zoom.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem practical for macro because of the large-diameter &#8220;hole&#8221; for the lens to poke through and the light-emitting surface areas are absolutely huge, and your subject is small at a very close range. Most of the light would never make it anywhere near your subject. Plus just about any macro lens or lens/extension tube combo would sick out pretty far, causing shadow vignetting of the flash&#8217;s light.</p>
<p>As for event shooting, it seems kind of bulky and seems to hang down only two inches or so in front of the camera body. Doesn&#8217;t it get in the way of using the lens&#8217; focusing, aperture, or zoom rings? Any events I&#8217;ve covered required that I focus fast, and the Ray Ring Flash looks like it would get in the way. Maybe my hands have claustrophobia or something. </p>
<p>What is the Ray Ring Flash&#8217;s effect on the flash&#8217;s guide number? Another site says one stop. If someone has a compatible flash that they are happy with when taking event photos, i.e. its output is sufficient for the distance range within which they are comfortable working, but they are looking for a softer look, adding the Ray Ring Flash would reduce the distance within which their subjects will be properly illuminated. This one stop means that the circle around the photographer that will be properly illuminated is now half the area compared to not using the Ray Ring Flash&#8230;a consideration for those used to their flash&#8217;s capabilities.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk about cost&#8230;$200 and you still have to dish out for the actual flash unit. I looked at a US on-line camera store that sells it at $200 and they sell the Sigma EM-140 for $380. For that you get an actual flash unit that is made for macro, with a Guide Number of 46 @ ISO 100/feet so any of the event photos above used to demonstrate the Ray Ring Flash are do-able&#8230;they look like they were done with a 50mm lens at less than seven feet. The light-emitting ring is attached to the filter threads of the lens allowing you to use whatever lens you want and your hands have all kinds of room. OK, the EM-140 is not a &#8220;true&#8221; ring light because it has two small Xenon tubes&#8230;but you can use this for creating modelling. The catch-lights in your subjects&#8217; eye wouldn&#8217;t be the same either (a ring with two bright spots at each side). I don&#8217;t work for or sell Sigma equipment, but the EM-140 is on my wish list. Plus the EM-140, or similar unit, is much more compact than lugging around a flash unit and an attachment that is about the same size as a small vegetable strainer with a long handle. I&#8217;ve have to invest in a new kit bag to accomodate it.</p>
<p>I would only consider buying one if the price was below $100, could be mounted onto the lens&#8217; filter threads, and was teathered to the flash unit (including the built-in pop-up flash) via some kind of adjustable universal adapter.</p>
<p>As for attracting attention and illiciting a respose, I&#8217;ve used Billy Bob teeth for shooting uncooperative children, and they cost me only a couple of bucks. Try Spock ears, a Nixon mask, a funny hat, or something wacky but appropriate for the event if you want a reaction. Really!</p>
<p>The Ray Ring Flash seems kind of expensive for a flash accessory that is not very flexible to use.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review; it&#039;s informative. I&#039;ve been thinking about picking one up and the price looks to be down to around 60 bucks on Ebay these days, which is a big plus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review; it&#8217;s informative. I&#8217;ve been thinking about picking one up and the price looks to be down to around 60 bucks on Ebay these days, which is a big plus.</p>
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		<title>By: thegorilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m talking about the actual lens length more than the focal length. If it goes too far past the flash, it can block too much light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m talking about the actual lens length more than the focal length. If it goes too far past the flash, it can block too much light.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned that it can&#039;t work with a long lens on the camera. Me being terrible at the technical aspects in photography.
I have a Nikon D300 with a 18-105 mm lens, would that be too long to have on the camera whilst using the Ring Flash?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned that it can&#8217;t work with a long lens on the camera. Me being terrible at the technical aspects in photography.<br />
I have a Nikon D300 with a 18-105 mm lens, would that be too long to have on the camera whilst using the Ring Flash?</p>
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		<title>By: jobinho</title>
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		<dc:creator>jobinho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey nick, 

just saw your great review about the ray ringflash... .i realy think i need one NOW ;)  .. so -  i´m also using the nikon d700 but with the sigma ef500 flash... (i couldn find a ray ringflash build for this flash) ... what do you think how important is the perfect fitting of the ringflashadapter to the  flash...  will it work at all to put that adapter to any other flash?

thanks in advance
greetings (from germany.. sorry for that poor english ;).. hope you can understsand me..
jo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey nick, </p>
<p>just saw your great review about the ray ringflash&#8230; .i realy think i need one NOW <img src='http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   .. so &#8211;  i´m also using the nikon d700 but with the sigma ef500 flash&#8230; (i couldn find a ray ringflash build for this flash) &#8230; what do you think how important is the perfect fitting of the ringflashadapter to the  flash&#8230;  will it work at all to put that adapter to any other flash?</p>
<p>thanks in advance<br />
greetings (from germany.. sorry for that poor english <img src='http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .. hope you can understsand me..<br />
jo.</p>
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