Playing around with GI settings today with the new Mograph 2. Really fast render. This scene took 40 minutes to render on my MacPro 8 core. All with low settings, there isn’t much artifacting. It came out a little soft. Not sure what that’s about. I’ll keep testing. Stay tuned.
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absolutely amazing…as usual
jason on September 16th, 2009 said...
i mean…even if it is just some spheres with gravity applied…it’s still visually appealing.
Beautiful Nick. Can’t wait to get my hands on Mograph 2. Best, John.
sweet!
No flickering. Why do I get that?
Tobias
thegorilla on September 18th, 2009 said...
The new renderer makes it easier to get flickr free settings. Even if the renders do take a bit longer.
Damn – these colisions look so great and are soooo simple to setup – we will be flooded by this stuff in some months. Mograph dynamics will be the new trapcode 3D stroke!
thegorilla on September 18th, 2009 said...
Tru that. I’m sure it will.
andrea on November 17th, 2009 said...
u mean the new trapcode shine ?
Oh – and i don´t think this looks “fluffy” at all.
The collision detection is pretty solid. I also love how easy it is to setup the GI. Solid work, can’t wait to see tutorials!
Switching between the 11.5 demo on my laptop and 11 at work is like switching back into the raytracer on my amiga 500 back in 1990…
do a plinko-type test render!
Yeah that GI is slick, have the flickering problems been completely gotten rid of?
thegorilla on September 18th, 2009 said...
Getting close. I’m playing with the new ones. Much better control over the render for sure.
I agree with Tobias–this is going to be too easy and fun and will get over-used. But for the short-term…a lot of fun and application.
This is awesome, I can’t wait to hear the solution as to how you made the objects glow. Thanks for the render.
Matt Frodsham on September 17th, 2009 said...
luminance channel plus GI = glowy
Matt Tully on September 17th, 2009 said...
I got the Luminance part down, GI sells the trick. Thanks Matt & Nick.
Looks great. How du you set your backgrounds up in Cinema 4D?
Tobias on September 17th, 2009 said...
What do you mean by that? He added a floor from the “lights” menu. No other backgrounds.
Mikkel Sondergaard on September 18th, 2009 said...
What I mean by that? Sorry, let me rephrase: How do you set up the scene? Not the ´background´…
Nice one…how did u do that white material????
thegorilla on September 17th, 2009 said...
It’s a slight gradient from white to grey on the luminance and some reflection.
read 2 comments above…
Hi Nick, Hi Folks, ..
.. greets jo.
a week ago i played around with similar settings… MoGraph2 + GI… Like throwing a bunch of lightbulbs in a dark room..
delicious.
http://vimeo.com/6622562
Sailesh on September 17th, 2009 said...
that’ pretty sweet dude ^^
hello Nick very cool result btw i am 3ds max user and really love your material and rendering. could please tell me how you setup this material generally its method that will easy to understand me and achieve in any 3d probram please…
best regards, and also please discribe its rendering settings
Tobias on September 17th, 2009 said...
http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2009/07/02/texturing-objects-and-lights-in-cinema-4d/
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i love the radiating glow, it’s so neon and cool. Dude you’re making me jealous with your blog output. Wish I could do the same with mine…
thegorilla on September 18th, 2009 said...
Thanks Sailesh!
Cheers!
again some cool shit. love how the render turned out. I’m no way into AR3 so i can only guess what you call soft render. GI always come around a little softer than other lighting methods. I’m totally hocked on vray ever since it came out for c4d. There you have a ton of AA options that either bring the render out crisp or blurry. Haven’t looked into the settings in AR3 but there must be some more settings for sharper AA. They rebuild that part. Best ist to post over on cgtalk and ask the pros there.
P..:
just added a new mograph2 test on vimeo.. i tried to use mograph-dynamics as an fake fluid-dynamics system… realy very rough-setup.. but it shows what you can do with some more work and higher “particle” count.. .. what do you think? .. worth spending more time on mo-graph-fake-fluids? its unbeatable fast compared to realflow or something else… maybe sometimes its enough “water-feeling” for some projects?! jo.
http://vimeo.com/6625615
thegorilla on September 17th, 2009 said...
Dope! Is it metaballs that you are using?
JoShi on September 17th, 2009 said...
yep, its made with metaballs… i´m uploading a optimized setup to vimeo at the moment… looks much more like water/oil..
prayas on September 18th, 2009 said...
First of all i have to say it’s a great setup.
mind sharing that let’s say over on cgtalk.com ?
P..:
Sebastian Kerner on September 18th, 2009 said...
I assume its just a cloner object with
“rigid body tag” inside a metaballs object.
The only thing you have to consider is that
you´ll need the mograph cache to chache the
simulation before make your cloner a child
of the metaballs object,otherwise it wont work.
prayas on September 18th, 2009 said...
ah i see, I did see some people ask for a solution for the cloner as a child thing over on cgtalk.com but this seems to be a nice workaround.
Thanks for posting
P..:
… following link shows a more optimized version of the “fake-fluid-system”… improved sphere-count… less mass, less friction less everything lets the liquid look more like water/oil..
http://vimeo.com/6628054
Sailesh on September 17th, 2009 said...
whoa. really cool!
sorry, but I’m kind of a n00b so mind the enthusiasm.
Amazing!!
man I have to learn Cinema 4D
Wow! you rock! i want to trie this!
Great..
Show us how it’s made..:-)
hey nick.. i´m constantly getting msgs how this fake-fluid-sim was made.. maybe you can show a few steps in your next tut… it´s even easier to explane by spoken words..
… but to get first a rough overview:
1. you can start with an emitter with sphere-particles
or with an matrix-clone object, stuffed with spheres (i would recommend this to save some cpu-power for the metaballs).
2. the higher the sphere count is, the smoother and detailed is the “water”-surface later on.
3. reduce sphere-polys (down to 10 or 12segments each .. play around with that adjustments of sphere-count and poly-count..) to get a even-surface switch the spehere-type to “hexaeder”… polys are more evenly distirbuted..
4. setup a modynamics scene as seen in nicks tuts… bake the sphere-clone-object.. (witht the mograph-tag->mograph cache) and then drop the sphere-source into a metaball object. to get a almost water looking surface, you have to lower the metaballs setting for subdivisions to 20m .. and raise the hull-percentage to about 200% …
5. now your got the basic setup… the behavier of the liquid is depending on how the modynamics spheres behave.. lower the fricition and mass to get a easy flowing liquid (you can raise the simulationspeed in the scene-settings too) …
6. if its too blubby and chunky.. try to increase the sphere-count… (but watch your system-mem… metaballs isn´t the most efficient-tool)
… so you see.. it´s realy fake and dirty..
but it was fun to think that way.
let me see your results.. looking forward to improve that
shit
greets. jo.
thegorilla on September 18th, 2009 said...
Thanks for the how to Jo!!! Great info.
I may try to cop your setting in a video tut if your ok with that. Cheers buddy!
woooww!!
that its the most impresivve ones !!
jiiji
how do you get that illumination ?
well y now that it’s something in globall illumination no ?
jijiji
yhea !! cool !!!
n__n
wath this, simply but i like it mouch !! jiji
sorry by my english but i don´t speak it jijiji
im mexican
see you !!
wooupss here’s the link
jiji http://nairm.deviantart.com/art/Serpientedragon-de-Oro-131542849
i tray to make some thing like that and i get those :
http://nairm.deviantart.com/art/City-nigth-feeleings-137666273
http://nairm.deviantart.com/art/Hojeada-137675824
If you want to have it come out a bit sharper, try changing your anti-aliasing settings to a Lanczos filter with a filter width and height of 4. Mitchell is a slight bit softer/quicker. The Triangle filter, width/height of 2,2, method is much faster, sharp, but not as pretty. Gauss (3,3) is a very soft filter overall while box (1,1) is quick and dirty.
I’m basing this off of mental ray in Maya, however, the filters should work the same in C4D.
Beautiful render, any chance we can get a tutorial, always had problems with self-illumination.
Please ma, please please please get a tutorial please
Hey what kind of settings are you using to get a quick render? cause i need to render mine quickly but it seems to be taking forever!
waauuuw, now i really sound like a gay, but omg, dude please tell me how you did that glowing stuff.. i just can’t figure it out..
Help? :$
cheers
Hey Nick
Great setup. I was wondering how you get that glowish look?
MJ
I really love your glow ball.
may I know some tips to know how to render like this ? thanks
Finally, I have render something like this.
but I feel your one much better.
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs215.snc3/22263_298938802832_592747832_3497674_440062_n.jpg
I get it closer.
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs235.snc3/22263_300707862832_592747832_3502649_7391785_n.jpg