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	<description>Cinema 4D And After Effects Training, Tutorials, and Plugins for Motion Graphic Designers</description>
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		<title>By: Graphic Tuts &#124; Do More Than Just Abstract &#124; GreyScaleGorilla</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2010/01/more-than-just-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-29193</link>
		<dc:creator>Graphic Tuts &#124; Do More Than Just Abstract &#124; GreyScaleGorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] via Do More Than Just Abstract &#124; greyscalegorilla/blog. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Blog of Jess &#187; research blog 3</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2010/01/more-than-just-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-15333</link>
		<dc:creator>The Blog of Jess &#187; research blog 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] came across this animation: Vanishing Point  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Toros</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2010/01/more-than-just-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-12417</link>
		<dc:creator>Toros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saw this a couple of weeks ago and loved every second (almost). I think there is a fine line between having your morale crushed (cus there are people that are so good at what theyr doing) and getting inspired and wanting to learn more. Luckily I mostly feel the latter :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw this a couple of weeks ago and loved every second (almost). I think there is a fine line between having your morale crushed (cus there are people that are so good at what theyr doing) and getting inspired and wanting to learn more. Luckily I mostly feel the latter <img src='http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Manu / Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2010/01/more-than-just-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-12302</link>
		<dc:creator>Manu / Kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one more thing to add to this good discussion :
Tools will be always tools... The creative process is the adventure AND the thing that will make your work unique</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more thing to add to this good discussion :<br />
Tools will be always tools&#8230; The creative process is the adventure AND the thing that will make your work unique</p>
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		<title>By: Raul Velazquez</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2010/01/more-than-just-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-12223</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul Velazquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with your post. The video I linked below is something I put together with everything I learned from Greyscalegorilla in the past two months. I decided to learn Cinema 4D to widen my skill set to say the least.

http://vimeo.com/9077807</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with your post. The video I linked below is something I put together with everything I learned from Greyscalegorilla in the past two months. I decided to learn Cinema 4D to widen my skill set to say the least.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://vimeo.com/9077807"  rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/9077807</a></p>
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		<title>By: Japes</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2010/01/more-than-just-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-11951</link>
		<dc:creator>Japes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video. Good point Nick! Been following this site for so long eventhough I&#039;m not into Cinema for my 3d tool(I used Softimage). I stick around because this site very interesting and inspiring to be creative in so many ways. Really helps me get better the creative field and push myself to move forward!

Cheer and keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video. Good point Nick! Been following this site for so long eventhough I&#8217;m not into Cinema for my 3d tool(I used Softimage). I stick around because this site very interesting and inspiring to be creative in so many ways. Really helps me get better the creative field and push myself to move forward!</p>
<p>Cheer and keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Stef</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2010/01/more-than-just-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-11884</link>
		<dc:creator>Stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a student i&#039;m a bit scared. Because on one hand i am the one following al those tutorials, scattering the webs for info and more info. On the other hand , i want to be &#039;unique&#039; and make and find inspiration where others do not. So when other students ask me where do you get your stuff i at first was a bit like: no , that&#039;s my source (oh my god , how sad:)). 
But i do share it afterall because as nick says : it&#039;s the why, the creativeness that makes you jump out and that will not change in the industry ( i hope).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student i&#8217;m a bit scared. Because on one hand i am the one following al those tutorials, scattering the webs for info and more info. On the other hand , i want to be &#8216;unique&#8217; and make and find inspiration where others do not. So when other students ask me where do you get your stuff i at first was a bit like: no , that&#8217;s my source (oh my god , how sad:)).<br />
But i do share it afterall because as nick says : it&#8217;s the why, the creativeness that makes you jump out and that will not change in the industry ( i hope).</p>
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		<title>By: Shane B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there everyone.  Really interesting posts here.  I thought I might share this with you in case you hadn&#039;t seen it yet.  It gives a very interesting look into our industry and where it is and may be heading.

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia/

This was posted on Wired a while back and mentioned an issue or two ago in Videography.  It&#039;s catered more towards the video industry but it came to mind while reading these posts.

Just to put it out there, I don&#039;t think this is the end of producing media at a high quality or that everything will one day be produced by one man crews.  Just an interesting perspective on things as the consumption of media is skyrocketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there everyone.  Really interesting posts here.  I thought I might share this with you in case you hadn&#8217;t seen it yet.  It gives a very interesting look into our industry and where it is and may be heading.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_demandmedia/</a></p>
<p>This was posted on Wired a while back and mentioned an issue or two ago in Videography.  It&#8217;s catered more towards the video industry but it came to mind while reading these posts.</p>
<p>Just to put it out there, I don&#8217;t think this is the end of producing media at a high quality or that everything will one day be produced by one man crews.  Just an interesting perspective on things as the consumption of media is skyrocketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Kimbarovsky</title>
		<link>http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/2010/01/more-than-just-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-11875</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Kimbarovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danno - that&#039;s an outstanding answer! (I regularly engage in discussions on blogs - and love the work that Nick is doing here - he mentioned that people were talking about crowdSPRING and I was curious). Thanks for taking the time and sharing your perspective. You might be surprised that there are many things about your answer with which I agree. For a large group of buyers (mainly small businesses), design has historically been a commodity and will continue to be a commodity. There is indeed much more to branding than the logo (I wrote about this in crowdSPRING&#039;s blog today if you&#039;re interested) and many businesses don&#039;t understand that. 

In a way - it&#039;s the same struggle with motion graphics. Consumers (including businesses) of more sophisticated creative services simply don&#039;t fully understand those services and don&#039;t appreciate the effort involved in delivering outstanding results. 

It&#039;s something we work on every day, in finding new ways to communicate with clients on crowdSPRING - to educate them about the value of design and to help them understand that design is not just a pretty picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danno &#8211; that&#8217;s an outstanding answer! (I regularly engage in discussions on blogs &#8211; and love the work that Nick is doing here &#8211; he mentioned that people were talking about crowdSPRING and I was curious). Thanks for taking the time and sharing your perspective. You might be surprised that there are many things about your answer with which I agree. For a large group of buyers (mainly small businesses), design has historically been a commodity and will continue to be a commodity. There is indeed much more to branding than the logo (I wrote about this in crowdSPRING&#8217;s blog today if you&#8217;re interested) and many businesses don&#8217;t understand that. </p>
<p>In a way &#8211; it&#8217;s the same struggle with motion graphics. Consumers (including businesses) of more sophisticated creative services simply don&#8217;t fully understand those services and don&#8217;t appreciate the effort involved in delivering outstanding results. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s something we work on every day, in finding new ways to communicate with clients on crowdSPRING &#8211; to educate them about the value of design and to help them understand that design is not just a pretty picture.</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really great comments and conversation here touched off by the challenge to be better. I want to see how the next gen of talent makes a go of the business as well as what they produce.

I&#039;ve been using AE since it needed a COSA dongle. Most of the learning I&#039;ve done with the button mashing aspect is now available to a new user as a tutorial for free. This really has exploded in the last few years.

Artists have been very open about sharing the knowledge and the distribution of this has been leveraged by the mass adoption of the web.

Lots of eyeballs and places to show your work out there but with that the premium that was once payed by sponsors to create and display the work has lessened.

Were at a very interesting point in the creative industries. The old ways are changing or broken and the new ways not yet fully formed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really great comments and conversation here touched off by the challenge to be better. I want to see how the next gen of talent makes a go of the business as well as what they produce.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using AE since it needed a COSA dongle. Most of the learning I&#8217;ve done with the button mashing aspect is now available to a new user as a tutorial for free. This really has exploded in the last few years.</p>
<p>Artists have been very open about sharing the knowledge and the distribution of this has been leveraged by the mass adoption of the web.</p>
<p>Lots of eyeballs and places to show your work out there but with that the premium that was once payed by sponsors to create and display the work has lessened.</p>
<p>Were at a very interesting point in the creative industries. The old ways are changing or broken and the new ways not yet fully formed.</p>
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