Cineversity just posted two Cinema 4D demo presentations from NAB 2010 and will be posting more by the end of the month. I was lucky enough to be one of the presenters and one of the first videos available to watch.
I highly recommend that you watch the other presentation from Mike “The Monkey” Senften. His presentation of using sound tracks in Cinema really opened my eyes to ways of controlling animation with sound. I really love his presentation style too. Really energetic and passionate. You can tell he loves what he does and loves explaining the process. I’m hoping to get Mike on Greyscalegorilla to talk more about his incredible work. Check out his presentation below.
Watch GreyscaleGorilla’s NAB Demo
Watch Mike “The Monkey” Senften’s Demo
The videos at Cineversity are large and take a while to download. But, be patient. It’s worth it.
UPDATE: Cineversity posted the videos on LiveStream where they should play much faster.
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im sure its a great tutorial, but i have no idea why i cant play it :S
I have a Cineversity login and all, but when i get to the tutorial it only displays the (Quicktime logo with an”?”) on it. :S
The Gorilla on April 26th, 2010 said...
Sounds like you have a Quicktime Issue. Maybe you need a new version?
Longone on April 26th, 2010 said...
The vidoe will show it just take a minute or two. Been waiting for about 10 min. now and i can play the few seconds. It is VERY slow.
Any chance it can find it’s way to Vimoe or Youtube??
The Gorilla on April 26th, 2010 said...
No, They are only on cineversity. Let them download for a while and come back to watch them. That worked for me.
Longone on April 26th, 2010 said...
Okay. Thanks Nick. I’ll get a bite to eat and take a shower. Maybe i can watch it then!
Rounin on April 26th, 2010 said...
If quicktime has a “?” on it, it might not play. I had the same issues as well, but if you look below there’s a link to a beta player. It’s in flash. That one worked perfectly for me. It still took long to stream, but it worked without hassle.
Nicholas Rickard on June 30th, 2010 said...
Worked for me
Great Nick, I was wondering when it would be available.
I’ve been watching Autodesk presentations at their website since last week. Maxon would do the same, since the need of having a Cineversity account may be a pain for some people.
ps.: quicktime issue here as well. this new quicktime player completely su***.
Thanks for posting this Nick
. they are taking a while to download though, Maybe because tons of people are trying to watch it too
wow this is really taking alot of time to download… must be because of serverload ’cause my connection should do alright…
cant you vimeo it?
The Gorilla on April 26th, 2010 said...
It’s not mine to vimeo, Sorry. Maybe Cineversity will make it easier to watch soon…
Borislava on April 26th, 2010 said...
im living outside the us.
loaded for half an hour, tried beta player, got quicktime yet it didnt show a single frame.
dying to watch your demo.
taking lot of time to download here too………
I wonder,what’s up with all the primate names.
Monkeys,Gorillas.If that’s what C4D does to you and your humanity,well,then I’ll stick to After Effects,since I want to stay human
I was having issues last week when they first put it up but I only have to let it buffer a couple minutes ahead now, weird there’s so many issues with this. I emailed cine and they said they were experimenting with codecs to improve it.
It’s seriously worth watching Mike’s if you weren’t considering it. No disrespect to Nick (I’m sure he won’t take any) but if you’ve been around here a while you won’t learn too much new stuff he hasn’t already shown until the end apart from how dashing Mr Campbell looks wired into a Britney Spears mic
haha… but the Monkey’s presentation is mind blowing in terms of how he thinks about animation. Really gets you thinking about how to introduce new things into your workflow.
Cheers Matt
Impossible to view, shame
Davy Menge on April 26th, 2010 said...
Yeah.. views went up from 2000 to 2900 in an hour. impossible indeed…
always the same with cineversity…is loading for 3hours now and can just watch 5 minutes
Only 8 hours of downloading for a 200MB file. I often achieve beyond 200KB/s on my connection. But with Cineversity it’s 6.5 KB/s. What a shame.
Maxon needs to immediately ditch Cineversity and just upload their videos to youtube, to their existing Maxon account.
Maxon should be thankful that people are even interested in switching over from industry standard Autodesk products and actually help teach new users without shaking them down for a paid membership with awful streaming ability.
On top of that Maxon customer/technical support is the absolute worst. Ever have a problem or want to report a bug? Good luck receiving any kind of response back. Additionally they cannot even be called for support.
Maxon has been riding the wave of quality user created content and tutorials like the ones provided on this site to increase sales. Yet they give nothing back support wise.
The Maxon “community” would be so much stronger if all tutorials and resources were just simply uploaded by Maxon to Youtube or Vimeo.
The Gorilla on April 26th, 2010 said...
I have let Cineversity know about the abysmal download speed of their NAB videos and am working with them to find a better way to get this content out. I will let you know when they find a better solution.
For now, Just set it to download in the background and watch it when it is ready in an hour or so.
Hate to be rude, but their site totally sucks-
I’ve been trying on and off to watch these since they put them up a couple days ago, and still haven’t seen a thing.
Youtube and Vimeo just -work- I don’t know why they have to be all difficult about it at Cineversity
what Lulz said,times two.
sort it out Maxon!!!!!!
maybe some one will just put it on a torrent site.
at least that way i could watch it
FAIL Maxon….
??? ????? 18:07 (???? 6 ????)
First of all, my name is Amir and I’m 26 from Israel … Apologize for my English
I’m learning from you lot, and enjoyed every minute of it
I have two questions for Cinema 4D
How do I create dollars to convey a sense of paper .. I want to create a section that many dollars falling to the floor
How do I create these things displayed video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ZPqgsLPas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udKFnudqgwY
I hope you can help me .. Thank you
The Gorilla on April 26th, 2010 said...
Hi, Amir.
For paper, things can get tricky with dynamics. Maybe cloth is the right way to do it.
For the other videos, I would look into Realflow for the first one (It’s another piece of software that does Liquid) and PolyFX for the second video. Hope that helps.
amir katz on April 27th, 2010 said...
Can you make a tutorial
For This stuff?
Robin on May 24th, 2010 said...
What’s Realflow?
A plugin?
The Gorilla on May 24th, 2010 said...
It’s a liquid simulator.
Robin on May 25th, 2010 said...
Okey, where can I download Realflow?
Does it cost?
tnx
I have been at it for about 3 hours now and it’s 14% into the download… really hope someone will find a solution soon…
ok, I’m done, even with a 100Mb internet speed here I could not see anything. At the same time I’ve been able to see as many presentations I would like to at Autodesk The Area. I give up…
If you follow the link below to the Cineversity livestream channel, you should be able to view the videos without too many problems. The tradeoff is ads along the bottom.
http://www.cineversity.com/live/index.asp?ondemand=flv_08e55ddd-f4b2-4de8-8b9e-131d859f8163
Very slow the video on Cineversity…
Thanks for the tip GSG! But it just wont load more then 10% – and I am waiting for hours..
The Gorilla on April 26th, 2010 said...
Sorry for the wait, illd. I hope it is available in another form soon.
Like I said, go to the Cineversity livestream channel and watch the videos there instead, they stream much faster.
Danielw on April 26th, 2010 said...
I can’t find Nick’s demo in the livestream could you post a link if it is out there
Sincere apologies to everyone having troubles viewing the videos. Cineversity is ordinarily quite fast when theres a few simultaneous views and the movies are quite short. The system wasn’t well designed for handling hundreds of simultaneous views of 200+ mb movies.
We are now getting them live onto Livestream but they take quite a while to reencode on the livestream system so currently only Mike’s is available, Nick’s is encoding right now and should be available in a couple hours.
We will try to have the rest of the presentations on both Cineversity and Livestream at the same time before announcing them to help prevent this issue. Nick and Mike have both promoted their videos very well and that popularity is hitting Cineversity hard.
We appreciate your patience and understanding and hope that you all get to view the videos soon.
Ryan on April 26th, 2010 said...
Mikes has Audio Issues on the Live Stream. It goes all static for me on Safari & Fire Fox
Ryan on April 27th, 2010 said...
Also this is a low quality so it isn’t possible to see any of Mikes interface settings.
Hello Kai The Stuff Guy,
Thanks for taking your time to post here. I understand that your system was not setup for this amount of viewings. However, your solutions to remedy this are completely wrong. How many times did you see posted that people would like to view these on a slow Cineversity livestream with interrupting ads at all?
Not once.
Simply putting these on your already existing Maxon youtube account would have been far better. Not only this but you must recognize that Maxon would prosper much further by simply transferring all of your Cineversity content to Vimeo or Youtube instead of milking paying customers to enroll in Cineverstiy.
As is customers do not receive the proposed “12 months of technical support” at all! This would be a way of actually treating your customers properly and in turn making Maxon loads more money. Since interest in C4D would increase due to the amount of content openly viewable.
Maxon already has somewhat realized the popularity that Greyscalegorilla (and other tutorial people) has had an effect on the amount of software sold. Why else would Maxon feature Nick’s work on their website and have him speak at NAB?
If you care for your customers at all, immediately transfer all Cineversity content to Youtube or Vimeo and I will forgive you for giving absolutely unacceptable customer support service.
Think about this, your system was unprepared for hundreds of people actually wanting to view these videos. By doing so Maxon has not quite grasped the proper solutions to the trends that have occurred particularly this past year:
1. C4D has increased in popularity by huge accounts due to Greyscalegorilla and other free training sites, not by actual Cineversity interest. So “upgrading” your current system is a complete waste of resources and not the solution in any way. People do not want to deal with your archaic Cineversity site, especially if you have to additionally pay for it after purchasing the software.
2. There is a potentially endless amount of people that might switch over from the industry standard products, but you must give them a reason to do so. Building a better “community” that actually listens better then all other software packages; while introducing what they want in the software is the way. Not by shoehorning your customers to pay further for an inferior system of streamed training and not actually giving them the proposed “12 months of technical support”.
Youtube is free which you know since Maxon has an account there. Why this wasn’t used? Vimeo is $60 for an entire year. Stop wasting money on supporting Cineversity and instead take those same working people and create a vimeo group/channel that interacts with the customers.
If you would like to discuss this further please leave an email contact and I will take all of the time necessary to help.
zymos on April 27th, 2010 said...
According to Kai they can’t use youtube cause of the 10 minute maximum, and vimeo cause they don’y allow commercial broadcasts.
Beggars can’t be choosers dude. Just be glad that the material is online and you can watch it if you want. Leave it at that.
Same complaint as everyone else.
C4D: great program.
Cineuniversity site: not so much.
The site is like molasses on a cold Michigan winter morning.
Check the videos out via livestream #4DThieves http://bit.ly/bLDCBB and Nick Campbell #GSG http://bit.ly/coXjEt #Cineversity #NAB2010
Longone on April 27th, 2010 said...
Woohoo. It works! Now i can finaly watch these. Thanks for the link! ;D
illd on April 27th, 2010 said...
Thanks bro!
lol i left both downloading all night and all morning. it is 2 in the afternoon and nothing…this is quite funny to be honest. might as well just accept the fact that i’ll never be able to watch them.
The Gorilla on April 27th, 2010 said...
Try the new links on the post. Those should work better.
Wow… the Monkey is 1337 for sure. His skills are F-ing amazing!!!
I am kind of confused by his quick explanation of how to use the sound effector to generate user data to be plugged into data tracks. I was unable to generate user data based on the expresso setup shown and had to switch the weight port with a strength port to see any results at all. the values generated were extremely low, can someone explain this? i don’t have much experience with expresso but found his use of it with data tracks interesting.
Matt Frodsham on April 28th, 2010 said...
go look over at mograph.net at the discussion about it! Chris C has put a quick xpresso setup together that works
pete on May 2nd, 2010 said...
thank you!
Dear Nick, you have some great work, thank you, Monkey is great too.
Love your work and the way you teach, keep up the good work Mr. Gorilla hehe funny Nick hmm…
I was going to watch 2 episodes of LOST, but now the links to your videos are working and Im going to watch these ;o)
Thank you and goodnight
Magic
wow, amazing.
Seriously amazing and inspiring stuff. Muchly thankful to you Mr. Cambell for posting this!
(PS. I lit this piece using your light kit, as well as a few other elements, thought it was o_k_ but then i watched mikes presentation… and now i’m not so sure
http://www.vimeo.com/10933676)
Yep, amazing videos. Great work guys and thanks for posting.
YES! I loved Mike the Monkey Senften’s presentation. It completely blew me away and made me want to cry and crawl into the corner in fear of its pure awesomeness:)
But, seriously, I’m interested in that one part where he created a liquid look just within C4D using the Smooth plug-in from Welter 4D and Metaball…(?) I’ve been trying to figure it out with no luck. Various google searches later, I’m brought back to one of my favorite tutorial spots – Greyscale Gorilla!
Could I request that you spend the next few tutorials on GSG deconstructing his techniques?
Keep up the great work Nick, you are one of the hardest working people in tutorial land, I really really appreciate it. Looking forward to purchasing the lighting set-up you released soon (I’m a student:)
Can someone tell the monkey to come over to my house so he can educate me.
great stuff, laughed at about 33:15 when your throat goes and you let out a camp Ooo excuse me haha legend
it’s not working at my end
awesome nick i enjoyed it rly much.
And Mike’s sound techniques are very very important and cool, i start to use them because i haven’t used much sound in my animations and im very happy with the results
You are a really cool teacher. Good Job!
How many people listen to you at NAB?
And I have a question about about MoGraph and MoDynamics. Is it possible to simulate something like a spring whiche jumps downstairs.I dont know if you know these rainbow springs ( http://zoom.walz.de/fsicache/erezplain?tmp=560&src=images/softbrix/KI/833/833762.tif )?
By the way I bought your “Photoshop For Photographers Training”. My photos definitely look 50% better after this training. Incredible! I hope you will make some more tutorials about photography.
Greets.
Hey Nick! Very good presentation. I´m learning a lot from you! I´ve got one question about that 7up project: how do you make the clones go to the third state, I mean the second spline text? Greetings from Brazil!
The Gorilla on April 29th, 2010 said...
I will try to get a tut up about that soon. It’s just about making three stages and animating to each one.
danny on May 1st, 2010 said...
you key frame the strength of the effector, so the first effector goes from 100% – 0% in 10 frame’s and the second one goes from 0% – 100% in about 15 frames starting 5 frames before the first effector, if u dont start the second one before the first, the cloner objects will go back to the cloner before they goto the second state. or atleast they did with me.
Hi Gorilla .
Can you tell where can I find that-SoundMaping plugin for C4D?
Thank you in advance.
The Gorilla on May 7th, 2010 said...
The Sound Effector is included with the Mograph Bundle. I would recommend that.
Is there any way to download this to hard drive?
This is verry nice tutorial.I have a question related to this tut.Will you please explane to me : how did you made cloned cherrys to move to the second spline .I saw a square passing the “cherry” spline.You never mentioned about this.I tryed everything ,but no luck yet.
The Gorilla on June 7th, 2010 said...
I think I might have to make this a full tutorial soon.
YYYYhhaaaa….I did it!!! I tryed to folow dannys way,but had no luck.Tryed to keyframe secon text 5 frames before first one,but couldn`t get it right.Later I just decided to make sequence 1,then just aded second text and second spline effector and it works.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRsB-3WIpgU
But still would be nice to see the tutorial,cuz Gorilla`z cherrys are moving nice,like a vortex or something .
Hi,
is there a chance to get more, additional input about the monkey’s sound examples- especially about the mentioned time tracking?
And how can we use the related, on Cineversity posted project files?
There is no readme.
Maybe a full fledged c4d project file would tell us the magic in depth- without to mutch
hassle for the monkey.
…thx for the great presentations.
Is it really possible to have a 0.5 time scale? I cant do that. I mean, the number is there but the hole thing works like time scale 1.