How to build Joint Chains for Spiral Growth with Cinema 4D and Xpresso


I’m so excited to present the first tutorial from the hyper-talented Mike “The Monkey” Senften. Well, not a tutorial exactly, but 45 minutes of pure knowledge about how to use joints, hierarchies, and Xpresso to build natural structures that are great for spirals, curls and golden section goodness. This is definitely a bit more advanced then most of my tutorials, but you should be able to follow along. This is the first of what I’m hoping to be many more tutorials from Mike. The way that his work blends science heavy technical thinking and dead-sexy design chops makes him so perfect for this sort of thing. Plus, he is so passionate about this stuff isn’t he? Please leave any feedback you have about his presentation style or his hair cut or anything really in the comments.

Some words from Mike
“It’s 45mins of me geeking out on spiral growth. If that interests you then grab a whiskey and come along for the ride. The purpose of this video is not only to share some of the methods I use in my work, but also to gauge people’s reactions to the pace, focus, content, and style of the presentation… so please, feel free to comment.”

Joint Chain Examples From The Monkey

Update: Adam Swaab’s Batch Rename Plugins
Batch Rename Objects
Batch Rename Tags
Batch Rename Materials

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  1. DAN-O-SAUR says:

    F****!!!!! That stuff is blowing my mind and far beyond any measurable berzerkness! No, honestly, I really like it although I´m still watchin it meanwhile ^^
    Cheers,
    D-O-S

  2. RagingClaw says:

    oh holy crap! screw work, im watching this now!

  3. caio says:

    nice ^^ but i like to learn more in for exemple… characters and bodypaint

    • DAN-O-SAUR says:

      This creature called the World Wide Web will kick your ass with million tutorials on that HAHA enjoy it! ;-)
      Just jokin!
      Cheers,
      Dan

    • caio says:

      I’m just commenting to criticize is not the intent of the blog? kkkkk loving the tutorials but it’s good that ta avendi variations because we c4d users suffer from specialized sites for us ai the 3d max’s and maya’s are wining.

    • Tobias says:

      Nope, actually – BP tutorials are a rare breed out there… the only good one i know of is 3D Kiwis DVD series.

    • blue recluse says:

      I agree Caio. not enough BP and character tuts out there.not for version 11 anyhow.

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  5. danny says:

    awesome

  6. Longone says:

    This site gets better and better every day! :D

    Thanks a lot for this great tut!

  7. casko says:

    this deserves a joint, ill smoke and come back to enjoy mike’s screencast!

    cheers and thanks for sharing your knowledge!

    keep them comin!

  8. danny says:

    you should upload more of these tuts and make some this complicated.

  9. Joseph says:

    Beautiful very very in depth but also easy to follow…I especially like the drink in hand. was it Johnny Walker red and water?

  10. ekion says:

    wow this one is crazy ! :D

  11. Dan Howard says:

    The Monkey rules! such a good presenter and humourous too.

    Really enjoyed this one, could do to know what the nodes mean in the espresso editor, its something that I’ve been interested in.

    Nick, is there any chance he could do a quick tutorial on how he made the floral wrap up on the example?

  12. Justin says:

    Excellent Video! Cheers Mike

  13. Juan says:

    Thanks Nick! thanks Mike!
    I really liked the tutorial, It was a bit harder to follow sometimes, but I definatelly prefer to lose that if we get more to learn in less time (the good thing about video is that we can watch it as many times as we want).

    PS: Golden section rules! I try to use it as much as I can!

  14. Hey Nick and Mike,
    You guys ever thought about doing a project together and then putting out a tutorial set like http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/includes/dvds/sva.php

    I think it would be really dope.

    Great tut by the way, Mike. Great pace, I might need to rewind a few times but it’s very engaging.

  15. jason says:

    http://www.adamswaab.com

    i can’t seem to find the batch rename plugin but there are a few things on his “technical repository” that may come in handy.

    http://adamswaab.wordpress.com

    • Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Anyone out there know where you can get BatchRename? That alone was almost as cool as the tutorial! :-)

    • the_Monkey says:

      I eMailed Adam.
      He said he took it off his site, but he’ll have it back up later tonight or tomorrow. I’ll post a direct link when I hear back from him.

    • the_Monkey says:

      Alright guys… Adam said I could go ahead and post his Batch Rename plugins on my site (there are 3… one for Objects, Materials, and Tags). Just unzip them all and throw ‘em in your plugins folder. That was my bad. I should have checked before I mentioned it. Please don’t send him a bunch of eMails, he’s mad busy. Thanks.

      EDIT: Links updated in the main post.

  16. casko says:

    GREYSCALEGORILLA + THEMONKEY = TOTAL PWNAGE!

  17. Fortunato says:

    Wow. Mind = blown. Thanks Mike! Thanks Nick! Unparalleled instruction.

  18. Spec says:

    Awesome tutorial! I think both you and Nick do a great job of explaining and moving through tutorials at a good pace that don’t dumb down things too much, but instead, challenge us to have to keep up. It’s a hard tightrope to walk. Thanks, Mike!

  19. Jimmy says:

    Absolutely awesome! Great tutorial. Thanks for going quickly and covering a lot of ground. I really like how this was a more advanced tutorial and look forward to many more from Mike :)

  20. Jonny Munévar says:

    This one was an awesome non-tutorial. Lots of very valuable information. Thank you guys!

  21. kopid says:

    Very nicely done. Pace was excellent and your explanation of why things were done was spot on. Great tutorial.

  22. yori says:

    YEAH!! the master is speaking!
    thanks a lot mike, it’s amazing! hopefully you liked it just as much as we did, because i cant wait for the next one!

  23. SiD says:

    WOW! Rise of the apes totally!!!
    Thanks a lot Mike for the great tutorial. And thanks Nick for getting Mike on board… You guys rock! :)

    Look forward to more awesomeness ahead…

    Thanks again.

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  25. Joe Barone says:

    I’ll drink to that, Monkey man! Keep ‘em coming, I love it when things get technical :)

  26. illd says:

    Sir Monkey, I owe you a bottle of the finest Whiskey available (or at least a bottle of brew ;) )

  27. Lysander says:

    Since the Da Vinci Code we all could have known about the Golden Section ;-P.

    This Tut is great and challenging! Looking forward for more.

    Keep up the good work!

  28. Holy cow this is cool

  29. leonuio says:

    WOW!!! … I want to get to that level

  30. Hein says:

    Great stuff Mike! I’m going to tinker some more with Xpresso, that’s for sure.

  31. Steve says:

    Well, Mike, not bad for a starter, you go smoothly, hoping your audience clings to the wagon. If they fall off, like I did, well its video so we just rewind and try catching it again. Very narrative, not to much sidetracking. Some rudimentary script might help to keep you on the tracks. But we are so grateful that you take the effort of sharing some of your knowledge and experience with us. THANKS

  32. hugo says:

    wow man, some pretty deep stuff there, very informative, just a suggestion but would love a video tut or run through of the time tracks, progressive keys scripts etc, that stuff blows me away! nice one anyway, keep em coming!!

    • franz former says:

      yes this would be great or just a free download of the Progressive Keys and Simplify Keys script would make life so much easier …
      but i somehow unsterstand maxon with this … but please MAXON intergrate that hot shit !

  33. wtf_cakes says:

    I couldn’t help giggling like a teenager over the fact that this is a tutorial on rolling joints.

    Awesome stuff, thank you.

  34. ALX says:

    the_monkey- Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. You too Nick. Many out there would love to charge an arm and a leg for the things on this site.

    I agree with many of the comments made above. I’d love to see how you put together the bullet vs. mic piece. Maybe indepth Scripting???

    Thanx guys.
    ALX
    NJ

  35. Eugene Opperman says:

    Hi guys

    Absolutely amazing stuff, this skill can definately be utalized in 1000s of different ways, a definate solid layer on the Cinema foundation of necessary skills.

    Thanks Mike, hoping to see you on our screens soon. And Nick, your site continues to provide endless resource to all of us!

    Many Many thanks!

    Eugene

  36. Jordan Cain says:

    Major thanks on taking the time to make this tutorial, Mike.. It was extremely informative.

    I’m glad to see you’re interested in making more intermediate to advanced tutorials. Not enough of those out there! Keep up the epic tuts, Nick and Mike!

  37. RS says:

    c4d p0rn

  38. catrixmiau says:

    ok watch the video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG9H2gnJCjs&

    ok the cinema 4d how help me? is allwars easy for that? ok only cubes flying and dinamics word for broadcast?

  39. Danielw says:

    Great stuff, really great to se how other artist work with cinema4D, super great tutorial… but the expresso part was a bit quick… it would be great if you could explain what the different expresso “boxes” do and why you need them… or maybe Nick could make a tutorial on that ?

  40. Mark Spencer says:

    Outstanding, Mike. Saw you present at NAB and knew this would be good – wasn’t disappointed. Had to rewind some parts over and over but loved the pacing and the topic – more, please!

  41. Tiffer says:

    Awesome there was alot i couldn’t keep up with but pause + rewind are awesome too

  42. peter says:

    Am I missing something? I can´t see any tutorial? If I click the photo… well… I see a photo.. Can someone tell meif I am missing something?

    All the best

    Peter

  43. imcalledandy says:

    Really pleased to see a tutorial from the_Monkey on GSG.

    Thanks for linking up the Batch Rename plugin too.

    Looking forward to future tutorials!

    • imcalledandy says:

      Really enjoyed the subject and the use of XPresso. The reasons for why you did things provided further insight and therefore better understanding.

      The style was great, although I wasn’t sure about keeping the window of yourself on screen all the time – but I guess it’s another form of communication and it didn’t get in the way of the interface.

      My main criticism – and this is pretty minor – would be the quality of the encoding; this could have been better, I think.

      Overall: Awesome and as I said before – “Looking forward to future tutorials!”

    • the_Monkey says:

      Thanks for the crits. I really need to record a smaller frame size so I don’t have to zoom around all the time… I’m hoping that will help with the encoding issues. I’ve never encoded anything this long for the web and it’s definitely been a learning process.

      The recording of myself in the corner was more for me to see where I got hung up on this first run and it will be unlikely to show up in the future. I was just too lazy to encode the recording twice. :)

  44. Vikki says:

    Am I the only one who cant see this video? I can see only jpg of preview and nothing more

  45. Rudeyuut says:

    My God I could have so used this a month ago. I had to rig an octopus, first time.

  46. ITV teacher says:

    Your mind is amazing Mike. I have seen some of your sound stuff and I love the math you use to create art!The combonation is great.

  47. Prollanski says:

    germany just won an important game at the world cup, so i may have had as many more sips of beer than the monkey had whiskey. Nevertheless, this has totally blown my mind. And it was so much better than the stupid soccer game. Thanks. Both of you, monkey and gorilla, have such a great way of presenting and teaching – you demand concentration and challenge the listener but at the same time do not hold everything for granted – meaning you do not skip too many steps and let us keep up – even if those of us who are not professionals (,yet ;) )
    by the way – living in fucking brooklyn and staying inside 10 hours for recording a great tutorial on a beautiful sunny and working free day – instead of enjoying breakfast or dinner or a beer somewhere at bedford avenue, that demands an big extra thanks!
    best from germany
    ps: now that i get more sober, i think i will watch the tutorial a second time ;)

  48. John Smith says:

    Excellent tutorial. I thought the pace was great.

  49. Thanks, I don’t think I’ve watched a more enjoyable tutorial. I really like the ‘rambling’ style – that’s what it feels like when you’re learning/playing, not too goal focused, just trying stuff out.
    Also wanted to say that you can get spirals out of the bend deformer, just rotate it a little in relation to the object. It won’t give you that beautiful logarithmic falloff though :(
    Thanks again.

  50. Lucas says:

    Hi, man
    That was a really amazing lesson!
    Please, keep up the good work!!

  51. Renzo says:

    Just my notes during the tutorial;
    First off, I understand the screen trade-off using the front facing camera in the tut, but the way you and Mike talk to *me* it works really well. It removes the sitting trough [another voice].

    Second, Mike, don’t appologize :) this was one of the best tutorials out there. And in the great filosofy of Nick: Teach why and flow, instead of click here and there. I come here to see the more indepth stuff. So it is okay to focus on advanced stuff.

    Third; Love to hear more about Da Vinci’s Golden Ratio. I’m a scientific guy and know what it is and how nature applied it, but never seen it apply in 3d graphics. (again don’t appologize to go in to that stuff)

    Forth; I need to know more about expresso. I see it happening, but I don’t understand why. Not a lot of information (basics) on that around on the net.

    Fifth; Alcohol seems to help you talk to yourself ;)

    Sixth; You’re a genius. great move Nick! Another angle on motion graphics is always welcome :)

  52. Javier says:

    Great tut, man!
    What about your layout?
    It’s really cool how you got your icons aligned to the right.
    How do you do that?

  53. David says:

    truly epic! loving the sacred geometry shit..

  54. personman says:

    I thought that hair looked different…

  55. Marteinn Einarsson says:

    I’m really diggin’ this! I’m terrible at math, still lovin’ it.

  56. Marcel says:

    I’m really digging the idea of showing a tool-based tutorial instead of
    an end result focused one. I think your approach and Nick’s fit together
    pretty well.

    Your pace was great and if I miss something I can always rewind.
    That was a great first, so keep it up. ;)

  57. polerx says:

    nick this is amazin.
    seriously real deep mind frying shit.
    this guys real good teaches alot of alot in those 40 min. i am pretty much a beginner talkin about animations so this stuff while amazing is way over my league, i can barely know where xpersso is nor do i have ever touched the character menu. this is better than good, again, yet throws beginner like me in the animation field a bit too deep in the water.

  58. Brady says:

    Dude, the monkey is like some OBI-Wan, Einstein, Super Science Monkey, What the heck?!..Probably some of the most creative displays I have seen yet. Wow man…All I can say

  59. Dave Koss says:

    Awesomeness! Can’t wait to do it. I’m on this site like every day now!

  60. beezwaz says:

    nick, this site just clicked up a huge level

    no longer just shiny primitives.. you are giving us the ultimate primitive. the monkey!

    i hope this is the future of monkey on gorilla action

  61. Marcello says:

    The monkey and gorilla up to some tricks! awesome tut especially for newbies like me starting out. Realized now there so much more to C4d than just animating by keyframe.

    You guys should do more tuts together. passed on the greyscale site on to some of my class buddies even they in awe!!!!!

    Well done guys
    from South Africa

  62. daly3d says:

    nice tutorial hope to see more about expresso
    cheers

  63. Martin says:

    Now that is what I’m talking about! Mike is a grrrrreat asset to the site. Thank you for this awesome tutorial Gorilla and thank you Mike. Love the style of the tutorial…

  64. Taz says:

    Hey Nick, I am a Big fan of you!!!! I always check your blog for mind blowing tutorials.
    You made me to get in deeply to Cinema4d.
    Monkey is rocking!!!! please ask him to do more tutorials…. keep rocking Nick.

  65. Charles says:

    Hi everyone,

    Xpresso question:

    Suppose i have 10 Root joints, how i can control the PSR of each one with only “1″ controller ? Then from that add “random” to have different “movement”.

    Dont know if i’am clear in english, i’am a froggy.

    Thank you both, you rock.

    Charles

  66. Shahrez Rafiq says:

    It was superb.
    I mean the way you explained everything was simply perfect.
    We’d love to see some more tuts from you.
    I told my friends about this tut and they too said that it was a really nice tut.

  67. Tom says:

    really, really, really great. Like the depth pace and complexity. Also really good to have an insight into such a great xpresso workflow, its been baffling me for weeks. I Would love to see more and judging from the comments above, I guess so would everyone else.

    Really appriciate you sharing guys.

    Tom

  68. Amazing tutorial! Helps me a lot to open my mind into new techniques in cinema 4D.
    Deeply hope to see more of these tutorials, which have so much of value information and so well explained!
    Mike please keep on rocking at Greyscalegorilla!!!!!!

  69. pedro soto says:

    really thanks fot that nick…we all say thanks to you and the monkey…both of you are amazing designers…thanks for share your knowledge

  70. Torgeir Bull says:

    Dude… My brain is all ower the floor! This is mindblowing. Where to start? I feel so small…

  71. Mannu says:

    Thanks Mike and Nick!
    Mike this is pretty complex stuff for me right now, but i loved the way you presented it..looking forward to more.

    you could also try the mohawk :)

  72. Karim says:

    Awesome Tut, awesome Tutor! More of awesome please!

  73. skrudge says:

    Mike, have a Chivas on me!
    Thanks so much for sharing this, I really like having this more complicated learning material around. Big up!

  74. “It doesn’t hurt to know more…”
    …well, my brain is throbbing right now!
    Seriously, really enjoyed this and liked how it challenged me; the lack of constant hand-holding through a process – I think anyone who had a go at this would come up with a different end product and learn a lot along the way. (I will do just that once my brain has recovered!)
    It has made me realise I need to swot up on Xpresso as those sections lost me. I could copy what you’ve done but I don’t understand it, you know? For anyone in a similar boat, I’ve heard that RuiMac’s COFFEE book is very good: http://www.ruimac.com/coffee_book/

  75. Andreas says:

    This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for! A simple and understandable examination of joints.

    Thanks so much for this one.

  76. Johan Boutkan says:

    Hey guys,

    I really love this tutorial.
    I really hope that the monkey and gorilla will work more together!

  77. Scott Barnes says:

    Is there no limit to this blogs greatness.

  78. mediengestalt says:

    Love the tutorial.
    Just did something very similar to your basic joint chain to knot a Vuvuzela 3 days ago:
    http://vimeo.com/12737770

  79. James Wicks says:

    Mike, congrats on your first tutorial.
    I like the free form way you took us through the tut.
    I wouldn’t change your presentation style for your next tutorial.
    You’re a natural at this, and it’s a great way to learn!
    Best,
    J

  80. Dave Glanz says:

    Awesome tutorial guys – keep the advanced ones coming!!

  81. chris says:

    THANK YOU! this stuff is so awesome – its easy to find a lot of tuts that show how to use all of mograph and all the other cinema tools, but its hard to find strong intermediate resources that reveal such clever and sophisticated techniques – THANK YOU THANK YOU

    cant wait for more!

  82. gray says:

    Hey Monkey-

    love the tutorial and i hope to see more from you and the gorilla.

    question: after the xpresso steps (around 20min into the tutorial), everything works fine, only, my joint chain is now 100cm off of world zero. being the axis nazi that you are, i was hoping you could help me figure out why it’s not at world zero. do i need to fix this BEFORE i make the xpresso schematic? or can i cancel the position connection from the ‘root’ to ‘joint.01′, move the coordinates back to world zero, then reconnect in xpresso?

    this problem doesn’t completely kill my work, but it’s a nuisance. the axis nazi in me doesn’t like it.

    • the_Monkey says:

      You may remember I did it the “wrong” way first to show you why you need to feed data to all the joints EXCEPT joint one. If you followed me doing it the wrong way you can simply correct it it by selecting just the first joint and setting it back to 0,0,0. Remember you only want to start offset and rotation from the second joint down (well… not always, but in this example).

      If you were to build a more proper Xpresso setup you would actually add a node to make sure Joint 1′s position was always 0,0,0. As it is now, it’s free to roam, which has it’s advantages (if you know that it’s free). If you prefer it locked you have that option.

      If you want to lock the position just know that you can’t use the Joint 1 node that’s ALREADY in your chain because it’s being fed by the hierarchy. Just make a new one (by dragging and dropping the object into the Xpresso editor) and create a Constant node with value of 0. Feed that into Joint 1′s position and rotation (but not scale).

      Also make you you set up your hierarchy correctly. I fixed the mistake after the fact (and left it in to try and show how to problem solve the issue), but that may have been more confusing in the end. Sorry.

    • gray says:

      restarting and trying again straightened me out. starting to get xpresso. thanks for your help! maybe it’s because i didn’t have a whiskey nearby? next time.

  83. OhBeOne says:

    The Monkey, that was an awesome tutorial! Hope to share a whiskey with you later in the future, haha. I was looking at your 2004 sketchbook and was wondering how you did the liquid and the smoke themes. The liquid was cool when it came out and then soaked into the floor.

    Can’t wait to see more from you here!

    • anim8tr says:

      Excellent tutorial full of great stuff. I would like more in depth explanation into the expresso nodes and really what they are and why chosen. That’s the hard part, is realizing “why” you need “what” expresso node to do what you need it to do.

    • the_Monkey says:

      OhBeOne… The liquids from that 2004 sketchbook were done with Thinking Particles. In fact, I think it was a tutorial that actually came with the Thinking Particles manual (back when C4D still came with paper manuals). Believe it or not, that animation has very special significance to me because it was what inspired my first discoveries with audio driven time remapping. The Artifaks piece was pretty much born out of experiments revisiting that first sketch from 2004.

      http://4dthieves.com/projects/do/ecko10/Liquids_c22a-H264.mov

      This sketch will likely be the source of my next tutorial. That way I can show you liquids and timetracks in a single run. That may need to be a two part-er just because of the volume of information that needs to be covered, but I love the effect and I’m proud of the research.

      If you’re referring to the blue smoke… that’s just animated noise.

  84. Andreas says:

    Thanks you so much for putting this up, I enjoyed it very much…
    and now please excuse me, I have to watch it again and try it out :-)

  85. Awesome explanation about joints! The Xpresso part is harder to understand why you used each of those things, it would be great to have a more in depth tutorial about it!!

    Thanks for it!

  86. steinnalex says:

    oh shit. that was a great tutorial. fast paced, go go go attitude, had to watch it about 3 times to stick it into my brain. thanks a lot, looking forward to the next one…

  87. Dave Glanz says:

    Mike – I’d be curious how you would add some soft IK dynamics to this controller. I’ve played around with soft IK the using the joint tool before -but not with xpresso.

    Any ideas?

    • the_Monkey says:

      Well keep in mind that this is an FK rig so if you want IK you’ll have to create a system where you can switch back and forth between them. Like so…

      http://4dthieves.com/files/gsg/chains/IK-Spirals-H264.mov

      Also, if anybody is looking for something more challenging to dissect, there is a dynamic chain that uses constraints rather than FK or IK that’s included in CS_Tools. Under CS_Examples > theMonkey > CS_BassFish. It was created with a technique that uses sequential delay constraints that I first saw described by Kai Pedersen in his “Boing” tutorial over at Cineversity.

    • daveglanz says:

      Okay, now that I know that “FK” is “forward kinematics” – that’s making more sense. I’d be curious to know how you did the sample you just posted.

      And while I’m thinking about it, why isn’t there a “soft fk?”

  88. Dave Glanz says:

    I’m also curious if there’s a way to clone objects with mograph using this joint chain setup. I haven’t been able to find a way.

  89. cameradan says:

    Mike,
    Thank you very much.

  90. Craig Ward says:

    *struggling along* until at 35 mins EXACTLY !!
    I’m hooked !
    Thanks Nick and thanks Monkey.
    xx

  91. JoeyZ says:

    Just wow. I have just recently started seriously playing around in C4D to enhance things I was doing in After Effects (I actually found this site through videocopilot) and XPresso was kinda one of those scary unknown things in the program,lol. This helped me ALOT to understand it a little better, thank you. This site has been one of the best sources on the subject I’ve found out there. I love how its entertaining at the same time as you are learning something. I loved the rambling about the golden ratio stuff. If thats what happens after not even one whiskey, I’d love to sit down and get hammered with you,lol god knows what I may learn. As far as crits on the screencast, everything seemed great however I like how the program Nick uses shows the buttons he is hitting as he’s going along. I teach at a design school here in PA and its easier for my students to see what Im doing as opposed to me saying “hit ctrl+j on your keyboard”. everything else was top notch man. Hope there will be more to come from Both you and the Gorilla. Thank you both.

  92. Excellent quick run through a lot of instruments and techniques that were new to me!
    My first experience with XPresso – such a powerful tool! Having prograaming background I feel it the right way to do repetitive tasks and involve the beauty of math.

    Thanks a lot for the superb tut, Mike!
    Thank you Nick for bringing Mike in!

  93. Dear Axis Nazi,

    I am grateful for this wonderful piece of info!

    Good job already!

  94. Siva says:

    Mike.. This is one of the best tuts that I have ever seen after starting off with C4D! Its total knowledge overflow!
    Looking forward to the next “liquid Tutorial”.

    Thanks Nick for this endeavor…You rock!

  95. Taha says:

    What can i say mmmhhh.
    Damn m8 this is great.

    Respect!

  96. leblebi says:

    Wow. Excellent tutorial. Especially the golden thing confused me.

  97. mauro says:

    That’s awesome! Looking forward for more tuts from you Mike! Thanks guys.

  98. Sebastian says:

    Thanks for the great tutorial. Looking forward to see more like this.

    It’s not too fast paced by the way.

  99. Aditya says:

    Thanks for the excellent tutorial.
    Could you do a tutorial on time tracks i really loved the way you used time tracks in your NAB presentation.I’ve been trying but couldn’t get it right..It would be helpful.

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