Spiral Growth in Cinema 4D Part 2 With The Monkey

July 20, 2010


After finishing the last tutorial I received several emails from other people showing how they approached spiral growth. This time I run through a variety of new ways to do the same thing and describe the advantages and disadvantages of each.

Methods Discussed

• Bend Deformer
• Extrusion Deformer
• Formula Object
• MoSpline
• CS_Recursive Spline
• FK/IK Joint Chain

Links
xsDeformation

Py4d Python for C4D

Chris Smith’s Python Cheat Sheet

Files
Recursive Spline by Chris Smith

Golden Formula by The Monkey

IK Spirals by The Monkey

Watch Spiral Growth Part One

62 Comments

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  1. RagingClaw on July 20, 2010 said...

    ha! Time to ignore work and watch this! Thanks Mike! EW-EW-AH-AH! And thanks Nick, for letting The Monkey on your blog! LOVE IT

  2. Thomas on July 20, 2010 said...

    awesome and useful as ever. thx both of u

  3. HorsePower Studios on July 20, 2010 said...

    Who’d a thought a Monkey and a Gorilla could make such sweet music together, um motion graphics that is. Love it, hey Monkey you need to do some tutorials on how to use SoundKeys, PLEASE oh PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. Dave Glanz on July 20, 2010 said...

    Awesome – glad you replied to my FK/SK request Mike!

  5. Gom on July 20, 2010 said...

    Once again, thank you so much Mike !

    The Gorilla & the Monkey are about to take over the world !!!

  6. Rickard Bengtsson on July 20, 2010 said...

    I’m always up for a tutorial!
    Even if its for a program I don’t have.

  7. Camotion.net on July 20, 2010 said...

    Really amazing stuff.

  8. Suriel on July 20, 2010 said...

    Again: Thx. Just plain informative and relaxing to watch!

  9. Max on July 20, 2010 said...

    Brilliant stuff! You blow my mind with the amount of science you put into your work, thanks for putting it into easy to digest chunks of nutricious information!

  10. Ali Karim on July 20, 2010 said...

    Damn great tutorial, thanks mike

  11. lizardwizard on July 20, 2010 said...

    great stuff man really helpfull

  12. dtriangle on July 20, 2010 said...

    Got so much out of both of these videos man, love your intelligence and enthusiasm with 3d. Has been really fun learning and can’t wait for the next video.

  13. Alex Czetwertynski on July 20, 2010 said...

    3d meier has some amazing spiral stuff on his site. A lot of it can be downloaded, and there are some Coffee plugins for Lorenz attractors and the such.

    Log spiral here
    http://www.3d-meier.de/Tut1/Seite4.html

    Use Google Chrome to go there and you will be given the option to translate the page to english, which is what I did

    Thanks for the great video

    Alex

    m-_g

    Such a great link !!! Thank’s Alex

  14. Scott on July 20, 2010 said...

    Like the others in this thread I like the way you describe complex problems in a relaxing and thoughtful way that’s more informative then intimidating. Well done sir. You would make a great instructor.

  15. digitalove on July 20, 2010 said...

    yes this was very helpful! i didnt know about the twirl down menus on the mospline either, this is going to save me alot of time. cheers.

    Cs_recursive spline looks great as well, well done Chris.

  16. Brett Morris on July 21, 2010 said...

    Cheers Mike, fantastic tips!

  17. The Mographer on July 21, 2010 said...

    Again great stuff! I’ll keep this in mind!
    The Monkey 4 President! X-D

    cheers,

  18. Thomas Stocker on July 21, 2010 said...

    Always get exited by seeing a new post from the monkey and benefit so much from the tips and techniques from the tutorials!!!! Looking forward about your upcoming plans ….

    Thanks for sharing your time!!!

  19. DAN-O-SAUR on July 21, 2010 said...

    MONKEY MANIA! Yes! Thx dude! Very good stuff!

  20. xsid on July 21, 2010 said...

    you have a sexy voice!

  21. Tobias on July 21, 2010 said...

    This is just great! Please – join your ape forces and put out some more of these!

  22. pikori on July 21, 2010 said...

    Thanks~!!!! very inspiring :)

  23. kounichiwa on July 21, 2010 said...

    haha you should get paid for that. its not like tutorial, its online lessons. and its awesome! i would love to see more theory stuff, as for project orientated tutorials there is the gorilla. you guys could even refer on each other in the tutorials, doing on practical part on a concrete example, and the technical part that is behind, talking more about the possibilities behind the technics. i also think its nice that there are people like you who plan the things and not just put physics to see what happens…

    please go on and stay motivated!!

  24. robbysalz on July 21, 2010 said...

    hahaha

    “Like a jerk he wrote 25 lines of code that completely replaced me as an individual”

    Good to hear you talk man.

  25. praz on July 21, 2010 said...

    i realy hope you will be doing some more videos :)

  26. Frankay on July 21, 2010 said...

    QUALITAY! Thanks a lot!

  27. Steven Jenkins on July 21, 2010 said...

    Great presentation, Monkey. I think you should know my wife snickers every time you say bone, boning, joint, grab a joint, and joint chain.

    the_Monkey

    That’s awesome. Our ladyfriends tolerate so much of our geekery. Chris Smith’s wife and my girlfriend probably know as much about C4D as we do. ;)

    Girls who love geeks are twice as sexy.

    C.Smith

    So trü…..So trøø

  28. Geoff on July 21, 2010 said...

    Thanks Mike! This was great and I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. It’s great to learn the foundation in vid 1 and then the optional ways in vid 2. Great stuff. Please, please, please keep it up!!!!

  29. Fuzzy on July 22, 2010 said...

    The Monkey makes me want to learn stuff! Keep up the good work! Props to GSGorilla for promoting the knowledge sharing.

  30. polyGone on July 22, 2010 said...

    respect!!

    i have been following your blog for a while now nick.. but never commented.. just consumed everything whole :) with mike in now.. things are getting way too good to be quiet about it.. amazingly awesome ..

  31. ronn Trevino on July 22, 2010 said...

    Ahhhh damnit, python.. yet another thing Im behind the curve on.. thanks a lot mike. no really thanks, a lot..

  32. Mike Tan on July 22, 2010 said...

    Thanks Mike and GSG, really like the tutorials.

  33. Scott on July 22, 2010 said...

    great tutorial monkey

  34. Ray on July 22, 2010 said...

    This stuff is da bomb :) Love it – thanks!

  35. José on July 22, 2010 said...

    Hey Monkey, thank you very much for this great video. You went through so many amazing stuff and I must say I got LOTS of tips & tricks from them you. Keep rocking. We need more talents spreading their secrets :)

  36. Sataneev on July 22, 2010 said...

    Speaking of “Golden Proportions”…
    There is a programm called “Atrise Golden Section”, which I often use.
    Sometimes it really helps.
    Link:
    http://www.atrise.com/golden-section/

  37. james crispy on July 22, 2010 said...

    “wacky crazy mcgee”

    nice work!

  38. GuuuuG on July 22, 2010 said...

    Awesome! Keep ‘em coming.

  39. Aslarina on July 23, 2010 said...

    Hey, nice tut!
    i have a question, i want to animate a industrial robot arm. And i dont know how to!
    Mayby you could make a short tutorial about that.

    nice work!!

    the_Monkey

    I think almost everything you’d need to know is in either this or the first tutorial. I would suggest the IK Joint approach. Just make fewer segments.

  40. Tiffer on July 23, 2010 said...

    Superb information and inspiring thank you Mike, Nick and Chris………

  41. Sommerlost on July 23, 2010 said...

    Thanks again for your time and knowledge, it’s inspiring not only artistically, but just how much you both share with the world.

  42. Shawn Astrom on July 23, 2010 said...

    Hey Mike, I just wanted to say thank you! Your first video taught me how to animate these tubes using joints; invaluable lesson man!

    I was working on a promo video for a client and I was scratching my head… I used your joint technique to dynamically animate these tube things on my skybot.

    Please check out my video you helped me finish!!

    http://vimeo.com/13341921

    Thank you!

    - Shawn Astrom

  43. Mattski on July 24, 2010 said...

    Here is a good link for more Golden Ratio info:

    http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GoldenRatio.html

    Warning: its pretty high on the geek factor but very interesting.

    @Mike: Have you seen the movie “Inception”? The sequence where the street starts to bend upwards…do you think that the street was CG-ed was using the same IK bone/bend deformer technique? It kind of reminded me of your first Spiral tut! :)

  44. ayan13 on July 25, 2010 said...

    Hi,dear monkey.Great work! and can you tell me what type (brand/model) of microphone are you using to record your videos? thx!!!:)

  45. Andris on July 25, 2010 said...

    Awesome! Another amazing post!

    Thanks Nick

  46. fractma on July 26, 2010 said...

    So great stuff monkey! I´m about to jump to cinema 4d and start playing with all this stuff… thanks a lot!

  47. Joe Ski on July 26, 2010 said...

    Another great tut, thanks for sharing Monkey! Looking forward to your next one.

  48. Sasha Fornari on July 26, 2010 said...

    Monkey thanks so much for taking the time to make this, very entertaining and educational!!! you rock. thanks also to Nick for showcasing you here

    can’t wait for more!!!

  49. Connor on July 28, 2010 said...

    Dude! Your hair looks so much better! Great tutorial AS ALWAYS!!! :)

  50. Stef on July 28, 2010 said...

    Hi Mr. Monkey, i was playing around with particles and modynamics the other day and i was wondering if you could shine your genious light on this subject because i think it’s verry interesting.

    this is the vid i made
    http://www.vimeo.com/13709197

  51. Von Pixel on July 29, 2010 said...

    This is an amazing tutorial.
    Theres more here than what is covered which i like. With a little brain juice you can do some cool things with this.

    Many many thanks.

  52. Levy Lerner on July 31, 2010 said...

    Great stuff. Really great.

  53. juan carlos on August 1, 2010 said...

    Hi I am writing from Colombia is the first time I dare but there is something that is causing discomfort when I export to after effects and I pass the camera + light comp let me know if I can say how to make me not go this component I’ve tried many ways but always comes in after thanks

    The Gorilla

    What is the discomfort? Does it work at all? You may need to install the Connect plugin.

  54. sara on August 2, 2010 said...

    i like the gorilla better ;)

  55. juan carlos on August 2, 2010 said...

    a more comfortable I feel good when you leave one comp and thought it was only me that none of your tutorials I have found out this compo

    thanks

  56. Denky on August 3, 2010 said...

    Thank you very much!!!

  57. Michael on August 5, 2010 said...

    Very cool video, quite informative! It’s always great to see how many different approaches there are to every problem in C4D. In case someone’s interested, I sat down and wrote a Fibonacci spiral generator in Py4D, which comes pretty close to the golden ratio. http://michaelauerswald.de/blog/2010/08/04/py4d-fibonacci-spiral/

    Cheers

  58. remmac on August 5, 2010 said...

    Hi Monkey!

    The Gorilla seems to drink a little too much coffee lately, so its nice to hear your quiet rumble. ;-)
    (gorilla your great)…

    on topic… how about the epicycloid in the spline menu?
    i can seem to get some spiral stuff there, i’m not nearly as good with numbers as. well, my cat, but i wondered if you took a look at this option.
    hope to hear from you, and hope to see you back soon!
    Kind regards,

    Remco, remmac

  59. kevork on August 6, 2010 said...

    Hey guys u should do a tutorial on how to rig stuff with armatures

  60. steve on August 9, 2010 said...

    While playing with the cloner I stumbled on another way to make a spiral of sort.
    Linear, Mode Per step and step mode Cumulative.

  61. steve on August 12, 2010 said...

    Mike, if you like a very neat movie about the golden spiral than check this out
    http://www.etereaestudios.com/docs_html/nbyn_htm/movie_index.htm

    Greetings

  62. Jon on September 5, 2010 said...

    Brilliant stuff.
    Just playing about with MoSpline, and using ‘ind’ as a value (i.e. the point index) in the formula field – in place of tweaking the spline – generates some nice spiral effects. You can exaggerate the effect by multiplying to this or some nice effects by subtracting from this value too.

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