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How to get Random Movement with Mograph and Cloners 70 Comments


I was lucky enough to meet and hang with the legendary Tim Clapham last week during NAB while we presented at the Maxon booth. We got talking about Cinema 4D and Mograph and he explained Mograph in a way that really helped clarify how it works. In this video, I wanted to explain what he told me about effector order and how values pass though, and then show you the best Mograph tip I learned from him so far in his excellent Cinema4D Dynamics Training Series. If you are looking to learn more about Mograph or the Dynamics system in Cinema 4D, there is no better guy that tim to show you how it works. I hope to have a full review of his Cinema4D Dynamics Training as soon as I finish it.

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70 Comments

  1. heey nick i did everything you did, even twice.
    but the weight transform doesnt change anything. what can i do? thanks!

    cheers
    sebastian

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  2. Mr Rayne

    Very useful tutorial. Thank you, Nick.

    Found a problem when duplicating the rig – changing the y position value on the secondary plane effector doesn’t do anything at all unless you first (before duplicating) group the original rig in a nul.

    Duplicate the nul whole and it appears to work a treat. Plane effector scales beautifully.

    R

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  3. Wonderful. As I learn I hope in the future dejavu occurs between Nick Campbell and myself like Tim and Nick Campbell.

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  4. Osiris

    Hey dude, I have a question, I hope you can answer me, I see in your video tutorials of cinema 4d that you have a faster render, can you tell me what are the technical specs of your MAC & PC?

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  5. shafee

    Thanx Nik,
    Its a great tutorial, Its very nice way you explain with out stressing ;)

    thnx a lot, wish you tsunami of inspiration and creativity.

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  6. Pratheep

    Dear Gorilla,
    Great Tutor… i love alot…..

    PratheeP

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  7. WOW! That was amazing! Awesome job Nick!
    But, I have a question: Could I do this effect with letters?
    Thanks!

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  8. blackandwhite

    is there a way to control the weight of an effector without a cloner?

    so if you are using the plane or random effector directly on a group of poly objects. there is no weight attribute directly but can you add weight to objects or object vertex without a clone.

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  9. marcellus

    One small note. When adding the plain effector you forgot to mention the need to select the thing you want the effector to effect before adding it. It’s a small thing but super beginners like me will spend a good deal of time wondering why it’s not working.

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  10. Cheesesticks

    I have a questeion about this… i have a coupple of toilet paper rolls. Set up with xpresso so it leaves a trail, the paper roll itself gets smaller and lowers as more paper rolls out.. My problem is cloning theese and making them random looking. Do you have any tips on this?

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  11. Phil

    Hey Gorilla!

    Thanks a lot for this tutorial.

    I’m trying to build a big cube with lots of smaller ones. They should fly in one direction and build the cube step by step. I tried to work it out with mograph and a random effector, but it didnt work the way I want.

    Here’s an example:
    http://www.c4dcafe.com/ipb/topic/50245-small-transparent-cubes-generating-one-large-transparent-cube/

    The guy unfortunately didn’t describe how he built this.

    I thought that would be something for GSG.

    So long, phil

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  12. santiago

    Hey gorila my name is Santiago and i am a c4d beginner, and i have my first problem, im trying to do some tutorials and I know I’m missing something, in the part of the tutorial where i have to put MoGraph Random Effectors this is not appear… Why?? i need a plugin or what?? Please help me.
    Thanks, and i want to say that your work it´s great!!!
    Im from argentina and my english is not good, sorry for that

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  13. Stephen

    Tim is an amazing instructor. Eighty percent of everything I know about C4D I learned from Tim. That being said I was really happy when I found Greyscale as you focus on different aspects, stuff Tim isn’t into and you flit from one topic to the next.. my brain works that way too..

    Steve

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  14. PVS.Chaitanya

    hi nick..
    ur tutorials ar rock.. iam learning cinema4d from 15 days.. ur tutorials are grate..
    thanx for ur tutorials..
    when iam searching i found this http://vimeo.com/9261840 link..
    can u tell how it will don

    i dont know where i post this.. so iam posting it hear.. sorry for that.. please guide me where i post the requests….

    thanx

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  15. man this is amazing like always

    i have a question for you , how do you shot such amazing quality videos , and how do you stream them live do you do it using your D700 or something else , hope you don’t mind my question

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  16. gatis

    I was trying to create “swallow” effect with mograph – i have clones along spline (spline effector), and I need a shock wave to travel through clones.. I can easily do this with effector that slides along the spline, but needed to do that in some other way .. to support many different splines and simplify setup.. I failed :( any ideas?

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  17. Throb

    Nice Tip. Tim Clapham is awesome. He knows EVERYTHING about c4d.

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  18. Excellent information given here, keep it up good bud.
    Any plans to come to the UK ?

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  19. Markus Gonser

    Its always a good day when I see something new in your blog, thanks nick!

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  20. CAPSONWHILERENDERING

    AMAZING – I was just wondering how to do this this past weekend!

    Where’s the tutorial on how you’re reading my mind?

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  21. cameradan

    I’m watching the Dynamics Training for the third time since it’s come out. Very in depth stuff. there’s a lot to learn in it and worth the money.

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  22. Never heard of that weighting stuff inside Mograph – great Tip Nick!

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  23. rammo perno

    nice. i’d say not only the order of the effectors in the effectors tab of a cloner is relevant, but also the order in the object window. for me it’s best to put effectors below the cloners. cinema is reading the objects from top to bottom, which includes the effectors. so i want the cloner to “build” the clones and after that put the effectors on it.

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  24. Great tutorial! Went kinda fast, I’ll probably have to watch this a couple more times before it really sinks in… Thanks again for sharing!

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  25. I had the pleasure of meeting both you and Mr. Clapham at NAB and the Media Motion Ball. Only thing is I didnt meet Tim on the monorail I met him in the bathroom at the Motion Ball LOL talk about wondering if I should say hi there or wait till we washed our hands and stepped outside!

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  26. This is really interesting. For me its highlighted I need to spend a bit of time trying to breakdown and understand the relationships between the Parameter, effector and falloff (cause they all on the surface appear to do simler things).

    Until now I have just been working with the parameters really.

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  27. JLuser

    kool tutorial
    gonna check out C4D Dynamics Training too

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  28. Hey Nick,

    I saw the “Target” spot you mentioned and I wanna know what did you have to do to pull it off?

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  29. mrxempz

    i know this question has nothing to do with the topic but where i can find packaging tutorial on C4D?? thanks

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  30. Nick, I love to know how to do this. But when I put the random effector on the cloner all the weights are the same (red) from front view. any tips?

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  31. been usin mograph for a long time and after watchin this… a huge “wow duh” hit me. i never even bothered lookin into transform weights but that makes total sense.

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  32. good to give some importance to mograph .
    i didn’t know that mograph is as this important do do some random and dynamic effects !!!!
    Tim is a professional on this .
    keep going …………….

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  33. Mateus

    Awesome TUT. But i want to know too how to made the materials of the example . :)

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  34. Milo Leys

    Hey Nick, do you think that you would be able to do this with a mograph text object converted into a polygon?

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  35. Maple

    Hi,Nick..
    Thank you for all the great TUTs you did. They’ve been so helpful for me.
    I’m wondering if you can share your knowledge in the future tuts that talk about C4D baking and how it can help with the projects. very little C4D baking tips or tutorials can be found on the net. you the best.

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  36. PVS.Chaitanya

    http://vimeo.com/13462260 link..
    can u tell how it will don

    i dont know where i post this.. so iam posting it hear.. sorry for that.. please guide me where i post the requests….

    thanx

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  37. I cant seem to get the effector to make changes to any of the layers is there any reason why this is, i follow the tutorial to the T!

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  38. malcolmo

    This tip changes so much! Good stuff, Nick. Are you using a matrox mini or intensity to capture?

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  39. you london based? there are a few inactive meetup groups kicking around…

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